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Mar 19 2007

banned from the ispot tubes!

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I have been shut out from further posting at theispot's message boards, pertaining to my previous post about their 38 fake blogs there. Also, my last comment in reply to vice-president Jami Giovanopoulos' accusation that I was a "very angry man" was summarily deleted by her. THIS is what they think of illustrators who ask them hard questions about how they are spending our money.

Here's Jami's comment, followed by my deleted reply:

Luc, you are obviously a very angry man. We won't delete your posts, although they are becoming increasingly personal and offensive. Please don't expect us to spend any more time responding.


My deleted reply:

Oh brother. Don't play that tactic Jami. Don't try to spin this back at me, or passive-aggressively threaten to delete my comments. This is not about me ONE BIT.

  • I am not the one writing phony blogs about ispotters without their knowledge, or their editorial approval.
  • I am not the one blogging phony posts to news and shopping websites about ispotters.
  • I am not the one violating the terms at these sites to my own benefit.
  • I am not the one deep-linking images FROM theispot's servers onto these blogs, to make it appear as though those images are getting real hits, when they are not.
  • I am not the one spamdexing or SEO'ing or tablering in an attempt to artificially jack theispot's rankings.


But you're right: I am angry about this, because this behavior on your part does NOT help illustrators OR benefit our field; it's shady and you're pretending it's strategic marketing, when it is not.

Good luck folks.


This is the message that greets me there now:

Sorry Guest, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum.


And what do you think deleting my posts and banning me from their forums does? It makes them look like they're avoiding answering questions, which is precisely what my point was above. They could choose to ignore me, but it's better to just shut me up, shut me out, and blame ME for all of this. Lovely. They call themselves the "premiere illustration Internet site," but when they shut out one of the people they claim to be a "premiere" site to, what does that say?

Oh well. I hope they enjoyed the US$1500+ I gave them over the course of the two years advertising with them, long ago. I didn't need that money anyhoo.

And I too am done with this topic, that of the theispot's fake blogs and them "tablering" their site stats. But don't expect me to keep my trap shut the next time something shady like this surfaces. I am "a very angry man" after all.

That's why stuff like this angers up my blood more than some people think it should. Theispot's 38 fake blogs don't affect me directly, of course not. I don't gain or lose anything because of them. But the integrity of what they do -- which claims to be helping us market our work at the very high cost of $650/year -- is severely compromised when they behave this way. So then, yes, we all do suffer from it. Because we're all in this field together.

No, we don't all have to be pals and super best friends, and always agree on everything unanimously. That's impossible and silly. But we don't need to be all alone in this either.

 

lonely loners



Here's the thing: We illustrators are a bunch of nice loners and hermits, working alone all day hunched over our drawing tables and computer monitors. The very nature of our work can make us feel very alone and vulnerable and helpless at times. And when work seems to dry up for weeks, or months, we feel terrified that we'll never work again, that our art is crap, that we're crap. It's scary as hell, especially if you're prone to depression in the first place. And it makes us easy prey.

But we don't have to be that alone. More easily than ever before, we can quickly share information like this when it happens, and not be afraid to ask tough questions and demand frank answers when people do shady stuff like theispot is doing.

And if you're going to spend your very hard-earned money self-promoting, be wise. Ask your peers' advice. Investigate. See what else is out there. Is there something cheaper? Better? Is this as good as it sounds? Is this too good to be true?

 

the Hardly Boys Mysteries



I want to point out that fellow illustrator Scott Thig was the first to discover this shadiness on theispot's part (thank you again Scott!), and together we sleuthed out what was going on. Others joined in at theispot's boards, also insisting on answers. Together we were able to share some important information with hundreds and eventually thousands of fellow illustrators around the world.

Theispot had a great opportunity to come clean, and instead they chose to silence another illustrator by shutting me out of their message boards, accusing me of using up their bandwidth with frivolous accusations. (Considering their fake blogs, accusing ME of using up their bandwidth is freakin' CLASSIC!)

 

best self-promotion tip EVAH



There is no magic solution out there for self-promotion, but there are good ways and bad ways to spend your money doing it. I still maintain that the absolute best method remains the cheapest, most direct, and the one we hate to talk about: cold calling clients.

You'd be surprised at how often they are happy to chat on the phone for 10 or 15 minutes with you. Touch base with an old client. Call up a new one. Then send them a few JPGs, and follow up a few days later. I find the results on cold calling vary between 5%-20%, depending when you do it and how often. Compare that to postcards at around one callback for every 1000 or 2000 cards. And phoning is cheap. Even long distance is dirt cheap now. Use Skype, save even more.

You don't need to make 100s of calls each week either. If you make three or four calls every Monday, that's over 200 calls in a year. At a return of about 10%, that's 20 new clients, and you probably spent less than $20 in long distance charges. Beat that, postcards.

Anyway, I'm getting all misty and editorial now, and I have work to do!

Back to our fake blogs, angry people!
 

9 Comments

Picture of sThig sThig
3 years, 4 months ago

Wow man, I can’t believe they locked you out.  That makes them look even worse. 

I remember making cold calls before I got an agent, I should do that more often and may soon again (when work gets slow).

Anyway, thanks for being such an active member of the art community Luc, it makes me want to poke my head out of my shell more often.
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Picture of Stuart Immonen Stuart Immonen
3 years, 4 months ago

Chee… I’m glad I never had anything to do with these people… but I’m sorry to hear that you were done wrong by them.

Luc, you’re a star! As Scott says, you’re a supportive, active and talented contributor to the illustration arts. We should all be such upright citizens.

Picture of michael michael
3 years, 4 months ago

dear luc,

thank you for your involved and passionate take on the ispot kerfuffle. thanks for standing up to folks who don’t really seem to want to improve their service by any real methods.

and thanks for the tip about cold calling - i’ll let you know how it goes.

best, michael

Picture of bob bob
3 years, 4 months ago

Thank you for your courage Luc.
The ispot is standing by their story that these dummy blogs were fair and legit and only in the interest of benefiting their artist members. They really think illustrators are dumb. Judging from the way some on their message boards are buying it though, they’re not entirely wrong.

Picture of manpop manpop
3 years, 4 months ago

ispot must be run by the Bush administration.

Picture of Aaron Aaron
3 years, 4 months ago

Jami at the ispot says each blog has unique content. Liar:
Here’s what Google found.

Picture of Luc Luc
3 years, 4 months ago

Thanks for the kind words and support folks!

Manpop: That’s what I thought too. Seems those political tactics are being adopted by everyone now: Deny truth when slapped in the face with it, then blame the people who uncovered the truth and asked for answers. Rinse, lather, repeat as necessary, until everyone stops asking questions. Or until everyone stops coughing up their money for crap service.

Aaron, I “shrunk” your URL above ‘cuz it be bustin’ my page layout bro! :-) But you’re absolutely right. (Could someone do me a favour and post that to their message boards for everyone to share? I’m not welcome on their “premiere illustration Internet website.”)

Picture of Rick Johnson Rick Johnson
3 years, 1 month ago

Meanwhile, children are starving in Ethiopia.

Picture of Luc Luc
3 years, 1 month ago

Rick, thanks for reading this far. But I don’t quite get your comment in the context of the discussion. Do you mean that none of this is important? Or are you agreeing that theispot messed up?

From your sarcasm, I’m guessing the former.

If starving children is your issue, then by all means, work at it and make a difference in the world. My hat goes off to you for your strength and courage and your capacity to give and help others, if that’s what you do. We sure need more people who make those big differences in the world, and help build a better place. But please don’t just sit on the sidelines and criticize what others are discussing just because you don’t think an issue is important, or worse: because you don’t understand it.

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